The thesis in this chapter is; "The importance of Q lies not in any new material but rather in the distinctive manner in which it frames and presents it sayings and story." In this chapter Kloppenborg talks about how Karl Schwarzschild discovering the black hole and how that parallels the Q theory (Aside One). In how it was a major breakthrough to the scientific community that black hole's exist and helps clarify the mysteries of the universe. Is Q the biblical equivalent of Schwarzschild's understanding of the black hole. I am going to say "maybe," for me it is still a theory, I am going to have to wait until the end of the semester to give a definite answer.
A Rural, Judean Gospel
In this section, Kloppenborg talks about how Q is most likely a gospel, and that in Q's Gospel is that it does not have a continuous account of the empty tomb, like Mark has. In fact Kloppenborg states that Q's Gospel is closer to The Gospel According to Thomas, than Marks. I am not really familiar with the Gospel According to Thomas, since it is not in the Bible's Cannon.
Also, this created question for me: What is the percentage of Christians that has read any Gospel that is not in the Bible's Cannon? My guess is less than five percent. Since we are not really studying John's Gospel, maybe instead is to look in to non-cannon Gospels, like Thomas's to see a in depth view of Q. I also find it interesting that Kloppenborg discussion of Q is from cannon Gospels.
Yet the point of the section is that Q's Gospel shows more of the rural Jewish traditions. Though the use of symbolic cities and use of private spaces in Q's stories.
Miracles and the Kingdom of God.
In this section Kloppenborg, thinks that Q and Mark try to answer the question of "Who is Jesus" by using the use of miracles in their gospels. Q uses a miracle that Jesus' opponents witness an exorcism. This miracle shows the true was to the kingdom of God.
Kloppenborg really wants to show that in Q's Gospel that Jesus fate is integral to his identity (79). Also that, Jesus death follows more on a Deuteronomistic vision of the prophet's death. Than an full glory based story that is in the Gospels. Since Thomas' Gospel shows a Deuteronomistic vision, it is highly probable that in Q is as the same structure of the death of Jesus.
Since we were asked to reduce the amount of word that we use in our blog post by 250 words, I will stop here. Although this weekend, there is a very high chance that I will do a Part 2 of the two chapters that we were ask to read. Due to the fact I am unable to talk about one of Kloppenborg major points in this chapter, the death of Jesus.
Aside One: To learn more about black holes click this link: http://www.sixtysymbols.com/videos/043.htm
Thursday, September 17, 2009
Tuesday, September 15, 2009
A reflctive comic: Turning Points in my life.
[Better Scan Coming when I figure out my scanner]
Each one of these poems, shows a unique turning point in my life. The Haiku is something that I have been doing ever since I started my major in Civil Engineering. There is always a solution, and there is a million paths to get to reach that solution.
Each one to the quotes reflects my thoughts on the turning points in my life. Each one shows how I think, act or communicate on a daily basis. Each quote I honestly could write an essay on each quote, however, when I look on the what I created reminds me on each major event that has happen in my life.
Thursday, September 10, 2009
Q? Like in the 007 movies?
The gospel according to Q? Growing up, I only heard of the "standard" four gospels: Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. Then when I entered my Junior year of high school (Archbishop Murphy High School), my theology class was on church history. This is where the other books besides the bible; such as" The Catholic Catechism, Other Gospels that are not in the cannon (like the Gospel according to Thomas), and the Dead Sea Scrolls, all of which have deep roots in the history of being Roman Catholic. However my teacher during my church history class, Mr. Clapp, never even talked about anything about Q (See Aside One).
Luckily I do have some background on how the cannon for the Bible was formed because of my When the Dead Sea scrolls were found in 1945, it completely reinvented the Catholic faith as we know it. From my reading of Kloppenborg's work, Q is this source that Matthew and Luke was inspired from. Q stands for the German word "Quelle" which stands for source (15). What I find mind blowing is that Q's document does not exist. With most of the scared documents being physical scrolls (See Aside Two). Although it is beyond the scope of the book: Q could have influenced other Gospels.
What I find mind blowing is that Q's document does not exist. With most of the scared documents being physical scrolls (See Aside Two). As Kloppenborg states, Mark is the earliest gospel. Awesome. Yet, Mark did not write his Gospel. In fact it took a couple hundred years after the death of Jesus for it to be "complete." Even if Q is somewhere in the desert of Egypt, the chances of being it a condition for it to be read easily is zero. Therefore it is just going to scraps upon scraps of parchment.
Kloppenborg presents a multitude of different theories in his book. I have read the first chapter twice for it to sink in and so it can make sense to me. However, all the hypotheses that he presents have a compelling argument behind it. Since this only the first time ever sinking my teeth in Q, I am really not sure what to make of all the data and reasoning that Kloppenborg presents in his book. The two theories that he presents are: "The other synoptic source, Q" and "The two document theory." I do plan to reread this Chapter over the weekend. Hopefully more of this chapter has sunk into my brain and will actually be able to figure out what Q really is.
Alas, a theory driven idea is not new to me. I am a engineering major with a heavy math background. This is just Kloppenborg's proof of his thesis. So maybe I should not try to understand it in the first chapter, but wait until the end of the class.
-Andrew "Giles" Leonard (See Aside Three)
Aside One: Mr. John Clapp is the most beloved teacher at Archbishop Murphy (Murphy). Every Junior in the last ten years at Murphy will have on their schedule "History of the Roman Catholic Church. Teacher: John Clapp. Room: 306." I have many stories and antidotes about him and with him. Luckily, you do not have to get a Murphy education to hear some of the stuff he talks about in his class. Check out this website and search for "Clapp": http://tr.im/ynlS
Aside Two: Granted most of these documents are just scraps and fragments of parchment. However, Roman Catholics believe that the sacred texts are inspired by the Holy Spirit. This does not mean that the Holy Spirit wrote any of the documents or guided the scribe's pen in any way. It just means that Humans wrote it. Q for all intended of purposes could be the Holy Spirit. Yet Kloppenborg explains that Q is physical document. My opinion: I really do not know. However, My first expression is that Q is both based in the oral and written tradition of the Holy works.
Aside Three: I could explain why I go by Giles here (See Aside Four), however over Lent 2009 a very good friend of mine and I did a blog reading the entire Catechism. Although my friend did a super majority of the blog posts. I do plan to do a daily blog of it Lent 2010. Check it out here: http://40daysofcatechesis.blogspot.com/
Aside Four: In a nutshell: Giles is my confirmation name. When I started community college I started to go by it, since I love the name.
Luckily I do have some background on how the cannon for the Bible was formed because of my When the Dead Sea scrolls were found in 1945, it completely reinvented the Catholic faith as we know it. From my reading of Kloppenborg's work, Q is this source that Matthew and Luke was inspired from. Q stands for the German word "Quelle" which stands for source (15). What I find mind blowing is that Q's document does not exist. With most of the scared documents being physical scrolls (See Aside Two). Although it is beyond the scope of the book: Q could have influenced other Gospels.
What I find mind blowing is that Q's document does not exist. With most of the scared documents being physical scrolls (See Aside Two). As Kloppenborg states, Mark is the earliest gospel. Awesome. Yet, Mark did not write his Gospel. In fact it took a couple hundred years after the death of Jesus for it to be "complete." Even if Q is somewhere in the desert of Egypt, the chances of being it a condition for it to be read easily is zero. Therefore it is just going to scraps upon scraps of parchment.
Kloppenborg presents a multitude of different theories in his book. I have read the first chapter twice for it to sink in and so it can make sense to me. However, all the hypotheses that he presents have a compelling argument behind it. Since this only the first time ever sinking my teeth in Q, I am really not sure what to make of all the data and reasoning that Kloppenborg presents in his book. The two theories that he presents are: "The other synoptic source, Q" and "The two document theory." I do plan to reread this Chapter over the weekend. Hopefully more of this chapter has sunk into my brain and will actually be able to figure out what Q really is.
Alas, a theory driven idea is not new to me. I am a engineering major with a heavy math background. This is just Kloppenborg's proof of his thesis. So maybe I should not try to understand it in the first chapter, but wait until the end of the class.
-Andrew "Giles" Leonard (See Aside Three)
Aside One: Mr. John Clapp is the most beloved teacher at Archbishop Murphy (Murphy). Every Junior in the last ten years at Murphy will have on their schedule "History of the Roman Catholic Church. Teacher: John Clapp. Room: 306." I have many stories and antidotes about him and with him. Luckily, you do not have to get a Murphy education to hear some of the stuff he talks about in his class. Check out this website and search for "Clapp": http://tr.im/ynlS
Aside Two: Granted most of these documents are just scraps and fragments of parchment. However, Roman Catholics believe that the sacred texts are inspired by the Holy Spirit. This does not mean that the Holy Spirit wrote any of the documents or guided the scribe's pen in any way. It just means that Humans wrote it. Q for all intended of purposes could be the Holy Spirit. Yet Kloppenborg explains that Q is physical document. My opinion: I really do not know. However, My first expression is that Q is both based in the oral and written tradition of the Holy works.
Aside Three: I could explain why I go by Giles here (See Aside Four), however over Lent 2009 a very good friend of mine and I did a blog reading the entire Catechism. Although my friend did a super majority of the blog posts. I do plan to do a daily blog of it Lent 2010. Check it out here: http://40daysofcatechesis.blogspot.com/
Aside Four: In a nutshell: Giles is my confirmation name. When I started community college I started to go by it, since I love the name.
Tuesday, September 8, 2009
Same Thing, However about me this time.
Paragraph:
When I left my last school, everyone that I met had the same conclusion on me. Although I am not sure that I agree with them, I am humbled that by their conclusion. That I was just like John Forbes Nash and it was a true misfortune that I was in a Community College setting. A beautiful mind that is blooming, yet not sure what flower that he wants to become. At Gonzaga I am not sure what I am going to become. All I know is that I attempting my major in civil engineering and have room for a double major in something.
Sentence:
I am not a magician; I am just some guy that makes jokes that sometimes I gets your personal information correct.
Word: Enigma
When I left my last school, everyone that I met had the same conclusion on me. Although I am not sure that I agree with them, I am humbled that by their conclusion. That I was just like John Forbes Nash and it was a true misfortune that I was in a Community College setting. A beautiful mind that is blooming, yet not sure what flower that he wants to become. At Gonzaga I am not sure what I am going to become. All I know is that I attempting my major in civil engineering and have room for a double major in something.
Sentence:
I am not a magician; I am just some guy that makes jokes that sometimes I gets your personal information correct.
Word: Enigma
Thursday, September 3, 2009
First Work.
A paragraph on Jesus:
I believe it was Bohr who thought of the concept that the electron position and velocity could never be known at the same time. Since once a scientist takes a measurement of the atom to find an electron, it would have moved or it was a image in the past. That is what Jesus, and God for that matter, is to me. Something that it is impossible to measure, yet his eternal love that is omnipresent. We might not know what this person is, but we do know the effects.
A Sentence on Jesus
A random guy preforming notorious premeditated actions.
A word on Jesus:
Quatrain
I believe it was Bohr who thought of the concept that the electron position and velocity could never be known at the same time. Since once a scientist takes a measurement of the atom to find an electron, it would have moved or it was a image in the past. That is what Jesus, and God for that matter, is to me. Something that it is impossible to measure, yet his eternal love that is omnipresent. We might not know what this person is, but we do know the effects.
A Sentence on Jesus
A random guy preforming notorious premeditated actions.
A word on Jesus:
Quatrain
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